{"id":26658,"date":"2017-11-01T11:42:57","date_gmt":"2017-11-01T18:42:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/?p=26658"},"modified":"2019-05-12T11:43:28","modified_gmt":"2019-05-12T18:43:28","slug":"288aa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/288aa\/","title":{"rendered":"Akira Miyagawa interview, October 2017"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h2>Filling in a blank area, though it\u2019s not completely rock.<\/h2>\n<p>Published in <em>Yamato 2202 Newspaper 2<\/em>, October 13, 2017. (See it from cover to cover <a href='https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/newspaper2oct17\/'>here<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/jan18\/288a01.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<p>When speaking of <em>Yamato<\/em>, what comes immediately to mind is \u201cmusic.\u201d We spoke directly to <em>Yamato 2202<\/em> composer Akira Miyagawa about the music that everyone has heard once.<\/p>\n<h3>How to handle a pipe organ<\/h3>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> What are your thoughts about the re-imaging of <em>Farewell to Yamato<\/em> into <em>Yamato 2202<\/em>?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> When contemplating <em>Farewell to Yamato<\/em>, it\u2019s difficult to express it in a word. I was a high school student when it was released. I vividly remember going to the movie theater across from the Koma theater in Shinjuku with my girlfriend.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> Any memories of youth?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> I vaguely remember that she was crying at the last scene. But my feelings were complicated, and it was a shock. \u201cThey\u2019re just ending on them charging in?\u201d Also, in my high school the curriculum was focused mainly on carefully learning about war experiences. During summer vacation I read <em>Listen to the Voices from the Sea<\/em> and <em>Black Rain<\/em> from front to back and wrote an essay of my impressions. I think that goes on in every high school, but mine put particular emphasis on it, and I thought about more various things than an ordinary student. So even though I was just a high school student when I saw <em>Farewell<\/em>, my thoughts were like, \u201cIs this OK?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> The ending was shocking for me, too.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> Far too shocking, isn\u2019t it? Yuki Mori was revived in the first <em>Yamato<\/em>. I didn\u2019t think it was possible, and there were pros and cons, but I liked it. The design of the White Comet was shocking, including the lower portion. When the rotation stopped, a huge city empire appeared, and when you think it has exploded a stronger giant battleship appears.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"image-right\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/jan18\/288a03.jpg\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> It had overwhelming strength.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> Your impression tilts toward despair.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> But after all, there\u2019s the music that\u2019s played in <em>2202<\/em> in the scene where Great Emperor Zordar appears! I\u2019m a fan of that, but is there a part that was intentionally rearranged this time? Also, is there are part where you dared to leave it as is?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> It all comes down to how you handle the pipe organ. The person who came up with that idea really hit a home run, didn\u2019t he? The first part of the melody is very good, and Hiroshi Miyagawa must have made it to match the image of the pipe organ. With him, multiple independent melodies combine to form a piece of music, and I compose based on the \u201ccounterpoint\u201d theory used by Bach. At that time, I was studying every day for my entrance exam to the Tokyo National University of Fine Arts and Music. I came to ask him, \u201cHey, is this right?\u201d and he\u2019d answer, \u201cIt\u2019s nice here, but a little strange here.\u201d He said, \u201cThat\u2019s how it is in a textbook, but it\u2019s not good.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> That\u2019s a great story.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> When I think about it now, expressing the evil theme using counterpoint is very sophisticated. It\u2019s easy to remember an emotional melody, and when it\u2019s knitted together using sophisticated counterpoint technique, the lack of satisfaction makes it a theme of evil, which is exactly like the structure of the city empire. Even if you break through the exterior, its image is concentrated at its foundation. <\/p>\n<p>Speaking of music, if you\u2019re burning through a single melody in a fight and that melody disappears, you can run on with just the baseline and it gives a feeling that you\u2019re still alive. (Laughs)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> That\u2019s an interesting way of thinking, isn\u2019t it?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> Also, it\u2019s true that we\u2019re using a pipe organ, which is the only instrument you won\u2019t find in an orchestra.<\/p>\n<h3>I want to avoid simply tracing the original<\/h3>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> Where did the idea of using the pipe organ come from?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> I think it was conceived either by Hiroshi Miyagawa or Yoshinobu Nishizaki. Wasn\u2019t the first <em>Yamato<\/em> well-made? I had the impression that they swung the bat blindly and got all home runs. There was the fight of the TV broadcast schedule (and various other circumstances), but great music was born in spite of that. It just so happened that the bat hit all the balls. But it\u2019s said that such a thing can\u2019t happen twice. This time they had to consciously hit it. The ball was coming in, but would it go to the same place? You can\u2019t hit the next one the same way. The idea of using a pipe organ might have fit into that sort of scramble.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> The pipe organ has a sound you can\u2019t get any other way. It was probably the first time that sort of music passed through the sound of a pipe organ.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> At the same time, the tone of the next story shifted, and the second film\u2019s view on life and death was beautifully expressed by the pipe organ, wasn\u2019t it? Was it the idea of Yoshinobu Nishizaki, or the achievement of the wicked spirit in Hiroshi Miyagawa? Either way, it was a big hit. <\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s why I was so worried when I was going to do <em>2202<\/em>. Would I follow it and do it just as it was, or change instruments, or not use that song? Even if I struggled with it, it wouldn\u2019t have the impact it did back in those days. The one who discovered it was strong, wasn\u2019t he? There\u2019s no reason I couldn\u2019t use a pipe organ. On the other hand, I wanted to avoid simply tracing it. There is also some pride at work here. (Laughs) <\/p>\n<p>Even so, what made that melody? When returning to the starting point and thinking carefully about why the pipe organ was used, I asked, \u201cWhy was the pipe organ there for the better part of the story?\u201d There are other ways to harmonize that song, you know. It became an idea. Taking that into consideration, I couldn\u2019t finish this without planning and recording new songs, so I keep that in mind as I continue working on the main story.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> What parts were you particular about this time?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> I had no choice but to be particular about how to handle the pipe organ. But in terms of the music, the authors were pretty obsessed at the time of <em>Farewell<\/em>. To break away from the symphonic rock route of the first <em>Yamato<\/em>, they shifted to classic string lines, or the artistic line.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> It certainly has a solid feeling\u2026<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> The sounds and touch are feminine. There was much more rock in the first <em>Yamato<\/em>, and it had a boyish image. On the other hand, <em>Farewell<\/em> has very little rock. I think that was the commitment of the original authors. I don\u2019t know whether they were stuck or just trying to change or were particular about the difference in nuance. It\u2019s obvious that the score changed. Based on that, I\u2019m using strings in my own way on <em>2202<\/em> and adding some rock elements. I\u2019m trying to fill in a blank area between the first <em>Yamato<\/em> and <em>Farewell<\/em>, though it\u2019s not completely rock.<\/p>\n<h3>Director Habara is an expert with balance<\/h3>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> What were your impressions of Chapter 1 and Chapter 2?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> I think they bring out very good characteristics in Director Habara. I feel his characteristic is to somehow give the whole thing a sense of uniformity. I think we\u2019ll stay afloat all the way to the seventh chapter.<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Habara is an expert who preserves balance while avoiding pitfalls. I haven\u2019t had any long talks with him, but that\u2019s how I perceive him. He also feels like a younger brother through the work. The younger brother never falls into the traps that his older brother fell into. When you watch your older brother or sister fall, you can avoid it. Still you never really lose that sense thinking how funny it is when the fall comes, and how much that tea bowl is going to get chipped when it happens. (Laughs) Anyway, he\u2019s good at avoiding trouble. Cautious, and I think he manages to not be cheap about it, but grand instead. He never, ever gets caught in the traps I set for myself. <\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, in the case of Director Yutaka Izubuchi, he seemed to have a more bumpy ride on <em>2199<\/em>. There\u2019s a sense of taste and personality and it has an arguably rough feeling, but it\u2019s fun to watch. That\u2019s how I interpret <em>2199<\/em>. The interesting thing about Mr. Izubuchi is that he was addicted to his own traps and couldn\u2019t get out. Regardless of how I feel about that, I really like him as a person. (Laughs)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> In that sense, this is a line with a different color. Director Habara has a sense of stability, doesn\u2019t he?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> That\u2019s indelible. There is a sense of stability. His filmmaking and compositional style leaves no room for guessing at unseen or unshown parts. It doesn\u2019t go that deeply, but you get a much stronger sense of it as we go from chapter 1 to chapter 2.<\/p>\n<h3>The visual and auditory information are blended<\/h3>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> There are a lot of places where Chapters 1 and 2 made an impression, including the music.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"image-left\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/jan18\/288a04.jpg\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> I\u2019m glad I made an impression. Which scenes are you talking about?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> I wondered if it would open with the pipe organ as expected. And then suddenly Great Emperor Zordar appeared.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> That\u2019s right. There are various other impressive scenes, and all I can say is that the use of music does not stick out too much. In this work, the pictures and music are blended. When I think of <em>Ark of the Stars<\/em>, the scene of beating the drums left an impression, and the music completely won over that scene. It was Mr. Izubuchi who thought up the drum and I thought, \u201cAh, now this is more music than picture, right?\u201d (Laughs) As a musician, I feel like I win when the music wins. Anyway, the visual and auditory information are blended this time.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"image-right\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/jan18\/288a05.jpg\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> Meaning that they link well.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> I think harmony is another of Mr. Habara\u2019s characteristics. Maybe his motto is \u201charmony.\u201d Therefore, when you watch <em>2202<\/em>, you don\u2019t get the feeling that any one scene sticks out. When you see the whole thing, it would be a bad thing if only one or two points make an impression. That may be his way of thinking. I don\u2019t remember any moments where something stuck out and seemed out of place.<\/p>\n<h3>You want to make a <em>Yamato<\/em> music university!?<\/h3>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> It\u2019s a long way to Chapter 7, but how are you doing now?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> My work will last another two or three weeks. When that\u2019s over, the next thing I might work on is a <em>Symphonic Suite Space Battleship Yamato 2199~2202<\/em>, which I think is necessary. But I\u2019m not sure yet.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> Personally, I want you to do a concert. I think there\u2019s a lot of music that sounds great when you hear it from a raw orchestra.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> I want to do a drastic concert. I\u2019d do all the songs. A <em>Space Battleship Yamato<\/em> Cycle. All 1050 songs! But that\u2019s just hypothetical.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> You can dream, right?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> Or maybe I\u2019ll start a <em>Yamato<\/em> music college. I\u2019d like to have a music school where I do a recording in an area with 2,000 students watching. Or music study and space philosophy and how-to anime. It seems like that would be an interesting summer course, doesn\u2019t it? I\u2019d do a live-music concert as the culmination. And hope it would be used for some new movie music.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> It would be magnificent, wouldn\u2019t it?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> Actually, a promise came out the other day at the Lake Kawaguchi Music Festival: \u201cIf you want to do something, it can be done.\u201d So that\u2019s good, isn\u2019t it? <\/p>\n<p>After I said, \u201cI\u2019d like to do an arrangement lecture,\u201d I did an arrangement of <em>Yamato<\/em> music for winds as an example. There are no strings in wind music, so the string part is played on clarinet. But if you just play it as is, the sound will stop. Therefore, the strings and clarinet are not exchanged one-for-one. I talked about counterpoints and chords and showed my arrangement. Then it became a story of the length of the chords and the melody side. Only in music is the freedom of melody compatible with the reason of chords. Society is the model for music theory. Such a music course would be possible because everyone knows <em>Yamato<\/em> music.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"image-right\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/jan18\/288a02.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p>It then becomes something like, \u201cHow about performing a work by Gustav Mahler or something there, right?\u201d But based on the premise that everyone knows <em>Yamato<\/em> music, that baseline would become the first step in counterpoint.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> That would be great, a <em>Yamato<\/em> music lecture.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> I\u2019d travel around the country with all the money I\u2019d make\u2026 (Laughs)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> Finally, what is <em>Yamato<\/em> to you?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Miyagawa:<\/em><\/span> Heaven and hell, that\u2019s what.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> It seems to have a lot of meanings. 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