{"id":22535,"date":"2017-02-08T21:59:49","date_gmt":"2017-02-09T05:59:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/?p=22535"},"modified":"2018-11-01T12:33:40","modified_gmt":"2018-11-01T19:33:40","slug":"148a","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/148a\/","title":{"rendered":"Harutoshi Fukui interviews, January 2017"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-880 alt=\"1702icon\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/wp-content\/uploads\/1702icon.JPG\" width=\"216\" height=\"90\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"cosmo-teaser\">In the month of January, <em>Yamato 2202<\/em> writer Harutoshi Fukui took the lead in media interviews. Here we bring you interviews from two separate magazines that each brought something unique to the discussion. [2 pages]\n<div style=\"clear: both;\"><\/div>\n<p><!--more--><!--noteaser--><\/p>\n<p>In the month of January, <em>Yamato 2202<\/em> writer Harutoshi Fukui took the lead in media interviews. As the staff member most qualified to speak on the new series, he was the logical choice &#8211; and it was probably inevitable since everyone else was buried in anime production. Here we bring you interviews from two separate magazines that each brought something unique to the discussion.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb17\/148a01.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Front and back covers from <\/em>Showa 40 Otoko<em> issue 41. (Crete Publishing, January 11, 2017)<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><em>Show 40 Otoko [1965 Man]<\/em> is a monthly men\u2019s lifestyle magazine that has graced these pages once before. Back in January 2013, they published a <em>Yamato<\/em> cover story that fronted for some terrific legacy coverage and an enlightening interview with writer\/director Eiichi Yamamoto. Read all of that content (and get an explanation for the magazine\u2019s name) <a href='https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/773'>here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Issue 41 of <em>Showa 40 Otoko<\/em> became the first magazine since 1978 to put the classic <em>Farewell to Yamato<\/em> movie poster on its cover, which fronted for extensive articles on the SF culture of 1970s Japan. Four of these articles dug into <em>Space Battleship Yamato<\/em>, culminating in this interview with Harutoshi Fukui. The others will be presented here at a later time.<\/p>\n<h2>Writer Harutoshi Fukui talks about <em>Space Battleship Yamato<\/em><\/h2>\n<h3>A look at the original SF work and expectations for the new<\/h3>\n<p>Yamato 2199<em>, which launched in 2012 based on a new interpretation, had a big impact on the first generation from Showa 40. Now, in 2017, a newly-reborn <\/em>Yamato<em> will begin its next voyage. SF writer Harutoshi Fukui is writing the script, approaching the new work with a desire to continue <\/em>Yamato<em> with the latest charms.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Coverage\/text: Kenji Adachi<br \/>\nPhotography: Michito Matsuda<\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb17\/148a02.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen I was in elementay school, most students didn\u2019t read books. Everyone was reading the novelization of <em>Mobile Suit Gundam<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>During the childhood of Harutoshi Fukui, whose popular masterpiece novels <em>A Lost Country\u2019s Aegis<\/em> and <em>Lorelai at the End of the War<\/em> have been turned into movies, it seems his interests centered on manga and anime. He says he was first touched by <em>Space Battleship Yamato<\/em> around the time he was in fourth grade.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe theatrical version of the first series was broadcast as <em>Farewell to Yamato<\/em> was opening. I was surprised. Even in fourth grade, I felt as if I was growing out of manga and anime, and suddenly I was able to see this amazing thing. Moreover, it wasn\u2019t some weekly thing, but one whole thing that showed up with a bang. It was the impression of seeing some serious anime. The sequel was opening immediately in theaters and I wanted to go, but I couldn\u2019t. From what I could see, all the older brothers and sisters were obsessed with the boom at that time.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"image-left\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb17\/148a03.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<span class=\"textBlue\">Yamato<em> launches to space from the sea in<br \/>\n<\/em>Farewell to Yamato, Soldiers of Love<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>As for the possibility of seagoing battleships flying into space, Fukui \u201cDidn\u2019t mind at all.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe boom fell into place with <em>The New Voyage<\/em>, which was on TV the next year, and <em>Be Forever Yamato<\/em> after that. That was the climax of childhood for me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When Fukui says \u201colder brothers,\u201d this includes Showa 40 men, who are three years older than he. Above all, he emphasizes the \u201cgorgeousness\u201d of the visuals in <em>Be Forever Yamato<\/em> at that time.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<em>Be Forever Yamato<\/em> is wonderful to watch even now, int terms of the high-quality animation sequences, the movie was like an out-of-place artifact. I think it was so well-made for its time that even anime researchers looking back 100 years from now will say, \u2018There\u2019s nothing wrong with this.\u2019 Especially the work of <a href='https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/399'>Yoshinori Kanada<\/a>.\u201d (An animator who created unique animation techniques with bold perspective and posing, using such effects as incorporating lens flares that occur in live-action photography.)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen you look carefully at the art, it is finely detailed and makes great use of projected light. We can say the feature film version of <em>Galaxy Express 999<\/em> was equally gorgeous, wasn\u2019t it?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Under the exceptional producer Yoshinobu Nishizaki, the high quality <em>Yamato<\/em> series was made with the leading anime production system, which attracted the curiosity of Mr. Fukui.<\/p>\n<h3>The feeling of SF Fukui sees in <em>Yamato<\/em><\/h3>\n<p>Although there is a difference of three years, the SF sensibilities of <em>Yamato<\/em> as perceived by Fukui are not far off from the feelings of Showa 40 men.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn previous robot anime there were \u2018death rays\u2019 and such, but \u2018Wave-Motion Gun\u2019 and \u2018Wave Engine\u2019 seemed to be more logical science fiction names, so it was reasonable to even have a ship fly smoothly into space. A <em>Gundam<\/em> fighting a battle with a shield and a beam rifle is entirely SF. Older generations might say, \u2018That\u2019s not SF,\u2019 but then what is SF? Various answers come back, and when you examine them it boils down to a narrow range of things like <em>2001 A Space Odyssey.<\/em> It\u2019s not like that; SF is a broad genre of entertainment.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"image-right\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb17\/148a04.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<span class=\"textBlue\"><em>From <\/em>Farewell to Yamato<em>; the true form of the White Comet<br \/>\nEmpire appears before <\/em>Yamato<em>. The image of \u201c<\/em>Soldiers of Love<em>\u201d<br \/>\nconfronting an enemy with overwhelming power struck deep<br \/>\ninto the heart of Mr. Fukui, who saw it again while<br \/>\nin college, after a long absence.<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u201cLooking at <em>Yamato<\/em> with cold eyes, even though Apollo had already gone to the moon, why did something shaped like a boat have to go into space? Why do fighters get shot and then fall \u2018downward,\u2019 and isn\u2019t it weird to refer to that direction as \u2018down\u2019 in the first place? Stuff like that is ripe as material for ripping on. But when I watched it in those days, such things didn\u2019t worry me. It was what it was.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Fukui points out that the most convincing factor was the strength of <em>Yamato<\/em>\u2019s mecha design.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI decided in my heart that design had gone as far as it could. The White Base from <em>Mobile Suit Gundam<\/em> wasn\u2019t cool at all. Though it was in the form of a space ship, I didn\u2019t think of it as a ship, because <em>Yamato<\/em> was the first \u2018space ship\u2019 I saw, and it was useless if it didn\u2019t have a waterline! I was intensely impressed.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>The appeal of <em>Yamato<\/em>\u2019s world view and characters<\/h3>\n<p>Mr. Fukui is full of love for <em>Yamato<\/em> despite its slightly clich\u00e9d qualities. Who is his favorite <em>Yamato<\/em> character?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve been working on <em>Yamato<\/em> for over a year, and this is the first time I\u2019ve been asked that question.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So who is it? In the <em>Yamato<\/em> lineup, it must be such great characters as Captain Juuzo Okita, Susumu Kodai, or Shiro Sanada! This writer feels like he can\u2019t narrow it down to one. I thought Mr. Fukui would share my sensibility.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen I think back, I didn\u2019t have a specific favorite character as a child. Looking back at it as an adult, Dessler is interesting. But I\u2019m not certain. It\u2019s just fascinating to watch. Dessler has the best lines in <em>Yamato 2<\/em>, like \u2018Do you expect me to sleep on the same sheet two nights in a row?\u2019 This was in the scene where he was a captive of Gatlantis. \u2018What a small man he is,\u2019 I thought. They might have captured him, but he\u2019ll keep quiet and then show them all someday, won\u2019t he? Then he\u2019ll put that loudmouth in her place. Thinking that, I could accept his mistakes.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Indeed, it is a deep consideration. Whatever your taste, if you feels a strange attraction to the enemy general, perhaps it\u2019s because you\u2019ve reached the age of accumulated experience.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb17\/148a05.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>Realizing the core of the story with the second experience of <em>Farewell to Yamato<\/em><\/h3>\n<p>Mr. Fukui says that he realized the true greatness of <em>Yamato<\/em> when he saw <em>Farewell<\/em> again as a college student.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"image-right\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb17\/148a06.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Two shots from the new work. Though drawn with modern<br \/>\ntechnology, you can\u2019t help but feel the flow of the times in its<br \/>\nprecision. Both scenes are enough to give expectations<br \/>\nof a strong fleet war!<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was around the time when video rental shops propagated, and when I watched it again after a long absence I was already crying buckets. This was at the end of my adolescence, and something about it stuck in my heart more deeply than before. I had shed tears when I saw it the first time, but not like this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>At that time, Fukui noticed that <em>Yamato<\/em> was a symbol of postwar Japan.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019d lost the war, therefore war was bad, therefore it was not to be discussed. Therefore we received almost none of what was called a war education. Even if you\u2019d heard fragmentary information about what it was like to go through an air raid, we had no sense of crisis that the country might fall. Before <em>Yamato<\/em>, I don\u2019t think there was much anime that depicted those circumstances, the poverty and such. Before that, most works showed the future as being fun and convenient.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In the first work, planet bombs from Gamilas are often depicted falling on Earth with scenes of cities and important people being lost. It was the image of the great air raids and atomic bomb drops that our parent\u2019s generation experienced. <em>Yamato<\/em> clearly showed the truth of war that can\u2019t be found in textbooks, wearing the clothing of SF anime.<\/p>\n<p>On this basis, and on the back of the original work, Fukui emphasizes that an important message is included for our generation, which did not experience war.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb17\/148a07.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Obviously, <\/em>Yamato<em>. The <\/em>Yamato<em> of our memory is further brushed-up with an exciting SF feeling.<br \/>\nIn the story, after it returns from Iscandar to save Earth with a \u201cCosmo Reverse System,\u201d<br \/>\nthe Earth government decides to return it to the battle lines, and it undergoes a major refurbishment.<br \/>\nWill the Wave-Motion Gun sealed up at Iscandar be used again?<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb17\/148a08.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<span class=\"textBlue\"><em>A new ship is built based on the policy of the Earth government. It is said that its equipment and performance<br \/>\ngreatly surpass that of <\/em>Yamato<em>, including two Wave-Motion Guns. Although it mostly looks like the <\/em>Andromeda<em><br \/>\nseen in the original work, the impression of straight, sharp lines will probably increase when depicted in CG. It seems odd<br \/>\nthat it was built to such a high degree of completion in a short period after the war, and its origins seem rooted in mystery.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb17\/148a09.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Character designs for <\/em>Yamato 2202, Soldiers of Love<em>. There is no great difference in the appearance of<br \/>\nSusumu Kodai and Yuki Mori from the previous work, <\/em>2199<em>, but what progress will be seen in their relationship?<br \/>\nMeanwhile, Emperor Zordar of the Gatlantis Empire has finally appeared, doubling the sense of fear from the original work.<br \/>\nAlso, the female commander Sabera is fascinating.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb17\/148a10.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn the end, <em>Yamato<\/em> beats Gamilas, but only after everyone is dead do they ask, \u2018Why didn\u2019t we try to talk to each other sooner?\u2019 It may be too late, and they\u2019re left with tears and regret, having become adults after a mountain of experiences, don\u2019t they? You couldn\u2019t express that in words, but you get that impression all at once. That this was the most vital thing postwar Japan had to convey. How, after waging a war, you\u2019re left with an awful feeling from the poverty and calamity it had suffered. So it was saying \u2018never wage war.\u2019 But the thing about war is, as much as you plead \u2019Stop,\u2019 you never can. It may be fantasy, but it may have been the first time in the postwar period when the idea of loving each other was stated. The first work is supremely valuable for taking that step forward.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In keeping with that trend, Fukui interprets the sequel <em>Farewell<\/em> as a warning against the approaching 80s.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJapan was heading for a maturity stage. It was around that time that we were climbing into the bubble economy. Frivolousness was becoming a virtue. It was in the structure of <em>Farewell<\/em> for people who felt uncomfortable in a postwar period to take off again on <em>Yamato<\/em>. The enemy for <em>Yamato<\/em> to fight in undertaking such an era would have to be a violence-by-numbers kind of globalism. The principle of efficiency becomes dominant, and the trend is to deny diversity. Its symbol is the White Comet Empire.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThose who dragged the postwar feeling into the clash with this coming reality had the same feelings as the young people on the crew of <em>Yamato<\/em>. There is absolutely no chance of winning, but they don\u2019t wait for things to get worse before adapting to their opponent. They understood that they would die. They made the final choice to neutralize it. When you look back at it, that\u2019s what it is to become an adult.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen I thought about it, the energetic SF that was developed in the visuals became secondary to the consciousness of the story. The people who set out to make <em>Yamato<\/em> at that time never thought, \u2018Let\u2019s make this with the emphasis on <em>science fiction<\/em>, did they?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"image-right\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb17\/148a11.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<span class=\"textBlue\"><em>The figure of Juuzo Okita as he appears at the end of <\/em>Farewell<em>.<br \/>\nOn the opposite page is a shot of Okita from the new work, <em>2202<\/em>.<br \/>\nThough there are differences in the design, his presence is<br \/>\nstrongly timeless. The sentiment he brings to <\/em>Soldiers of<br \/>\nLove<em> seems to be the spirit of the work.<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<h3>Depicting the meaning of <em>Soldiers of Love<\/em> in the present day<\/h3>\n<p>The theatrical premiere of the new anime work <em>Yamato 2202, Soldiers of Love<\/em>, which is a new interpretation of the tearjerking <em>Farewell<\/em>, is near at hand. What is the significance of breathing new life into a work from 40 years ago today?<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Earlier I said that the original <em>Farewell<\/em> collided with the powerful force of reality and neutralized it. However, there is the risk that this can be connected with the suicide bombings we see every day in the news. If we end up making that part of the good guy\u2019s logic this time, thee\u2019s no way we can just leave it at that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cProtecting the \u2018love\u2019 of the original <em>Soldiers of Love<\/em> firmly resides in the highest level of human values. But when we put a foothold there, we run the risk of equating it with terrorism. So what is \u2018love\u2019 in the first place? What are the human values that should be protected? When I drilled down into that for <em>Soldiers of Love<\/em>, I thought it would be worth doing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>What kind of route through the complex problems of modern society will Fukui\u2019s <em>Yamato<\/em> story trace? What is the huge presence that is the White Comet Empire? For the men of Showa 40 who experienced the original work, I\u2019m certain there will be many discoveries in the message of <em>Soldiers of Love<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAfter shedding tears for <em>Farewell<\/em>, most Showa 40 men probably don\u2019t think there is another drop to cry for <em>Yamato<\/em>. I\u2019m planning to make them cry this time, so I\u2019ll be grateful if they all see it for themselves.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em>Special thanks to Neil Nadelman for translation support.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/br><\/p>\n<p><a href='https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/149a'>Continue to the next interview, from <em>Hobby Japan<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[119,123,135],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-22535","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-others-interviews-essays","category-yamato-2202","category-yamato-2202-interviews"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22535","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=22535"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22535\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":24603,"href":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22535\/revisions\/24603"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=22535"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=22535"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=22535"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}