{"id":1309,"date":"2013-06-22T06:02:38","date_gmt":"2013-06-22T06:02:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/?p=1309"},"modified":"2022-07-28T15:42:28","modified_gmt":"2022-07-28T22:42:28","slug":"264","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/264\/","title":{"rendered":"The Early Days of <em>Yamato<\/em> Fan Clubs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-880 alt=\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/wp-content\/uploads\/0810icon.JPG\" width=\"216\" height=\"90\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"cosmo-teaser\">In 1983, a special book published by <em>Animec<\/em> gave a detailed overview of the first TV series, which included the only known published interview with those who ran the best-known private <em>Yamato<\/em> fan clubs of the 1970s. The interview took the form of a round table discussion and is presented here in full.<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear: both;\"><\/div>\n<p><!--more--><!--noteaser--><\/p>\n<h2>A round table discussion<\/h2>\n<p><span class=\"image-right\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb10\/26401.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><br \/>\n<em>Translated by Earnest Migaki, edited by Tim Eldred<\/em><\/p>\n<p>As the <em>Yamato<\/em> saga was ending in 1983, numerous books and magazines published retrospective coverage on every aspect of the phenomenon. One such tome was the <em>Space Battleship Yamato<\/em> &#8216;Rapport Deluxe&#8217; special, published by <em>Animec<\/em> Magazine. Its primary content was a detailed overview of the first TV series, which included the only known published interview with those who ran the best-known fan clubs, <em>Cosmo Battleship Yamato Laboratory<\/em> (CBYL) and its successor, <em>Yamato Association<\/em> (YA).<\/p>\n<p>The interview took the form of a round table discussion and is presented here in full.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"clear\">\n<p>We cannot leave out the work of the fan clubs when talking about the early days of <em>Yamato.<\/em> They didn&#8217;t have it as easy as people do today, and it took quite a struggle to get things done during that time. We asked the members of <em>Yamato Lab<\/em> and <em>Yamato Association<\/em> to recount their experiences.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb10\/26402.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em>The Participants:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\">Masaru Komaki<\/span> (28) At far left<br \/>\n<em>Former YA member, currently editor-in-chief of <em>Animec<\/em> Magazine<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\">Asami Kushino<\/span> (?)<br \/>\n<em>Former CBYL member, president of YA, employee at an advertising agency<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\">Hideaki Ito<\/span> (25)<br \/>\n<em>Former YA supporting member &amp; artist<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\">Tatsuya Nakatani<\/span> (25) At far right<br \/>\n<em>Former CBYL president, graduate of the Tokyo Institute of Technology, employee at a computer company<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> Can you tell us about the situation and background of that time when it all began?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> <em>Yamato<\/em> began when I was in high school. When my fellow students and I, who were big fans, went to check out the studio I met Ms. Kushino there. We saw a mountain of original material, so we formed the <em>Lab<\/em> to ensure that <em>Yamato<\/em> would remain in some form for all of us.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> When I first went to the studio, Nakatani was dubbing a BGM cassette. I went up to him and asked, &#8220;Are you one of the dubbing staff?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> That was around the time when the 18th episode was shown, and it was also my third time at the studio.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Ito:<\/em><\/span> They allowed you in just like that?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> Actually, I really wanted to visit Tatsunoko-Pro, but when I called them up, they refused. When I called up Office Academy, they said, &#8220;come on down!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> That was a mistake (laughs).<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"image-left\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb10\/26403.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> At first, I didn&#8217;t know where they were making it. So I looked up Daiichi Houei in the phone book and called them up, but they just gave me the runaround. They told me to try Toyo Studios or Studio Zero (laughs). I must have called at least ten places.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> When did the club start production [on fanzines]? They asked me to help out when I joined, but I never knew when it all started.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> It was when the broadcasts were ending.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> Yeah, around episode 25, when the voice recording was going on.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> While we were underway, I was a senior in high school, preparing for my college entrance exams, so we left it in the good hands of Kushino and Mr. W.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> The notorious Mr. W! Just who is this Mr. W?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> The puppet master!!<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> Mr. W did most of the work. I just made the final copy&#8230;kind of like adding my name to the credits&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> I was planning to just make photocopies, so I was surprised when we ended up with offset printing.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Ito:<\/em><\/span> Mr. W was always doing that&#8230;<br \/>\n<span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> He&#8217;s also the one that calculated the reduction of copies. It was the first time I&#8217;d heard of that.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> He always attended various other meetings, so that&#8217;s where he got his know-how.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Ito:<\/em><\/span> So how did Mr. W get involved in the first place?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> That&#8217;s a good question. He happened to be at one of the meetings, and then he just took off, getting involved in virtually everything.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> Mr. W hated to have his name on anything, so after the second publication, he simply disappeared, working on editing and &#8220;behind-the-scenes&#8221; stuff under the alias of Haiji Urawa.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> He was the idea man who did whatever was necessary to get things out there and sold.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> The second volume had 5 different covers in separate colors, so it was easy to buy the same thing more than once by mistake.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"image-right\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb10\/26404.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> He was a genius at marketing. I bow down to him (laughs).<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> Was the artwork in the fanzines provided by the studio?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> We paid for the rights to copy the materials in the fanzines.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Ito:<\/em><\/span> From Office Academy?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> That&#8217;s right. After the second or third time, we asked if it&#8217;d be okay to make copies. But it&#8217;d take forever (laughs). With three people, we&#8217;d get 500 copies made, paying about 10,000 yen out of our allowances (laughs).<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Ito:<\/em><\/span> You guys were really generous.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> The production was in Iidabashi, but the Sakuradai Studio didn&#8217;t have the busybodies there.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> It was a condominium studio. The first floor was a bread bakery. Second floor had the production setup. Third floor was planning. Fourth floor was the director&#8217;s office. It truly was just an ordinary (Japanese-style) condominium. When you went up, it even had tatami mats on the floors, which surprised me (laughs).<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> It was very relaxing.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> There wasn&#8217;t any sense of urgency there. When we asked if they were working on materials two weeks before broadcasting, we were told that actually that ran against studio&#8217;s policy&#8211;one of those surprising details one learns in the dark corners of anime production.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Ito:<\/em><\/span> We were also able to get our hands on a lot of cels and production artwork.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> Yeah, because we helped them move out, and they didn&#8217;t need them anymore.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> That&#8217;s really amazing.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb10\/26405.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> Nowadays, those cels would be famous, but back in the day, the guys that worked under the stairs were always stuffing them into cardboard boxes and making off with them (laughs). Now all that stuff is probably buried somewhere, or in the garbage.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> We picked out only the good stuff when we helped out, like the day before the move. And we always asked first before taking.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> And the artwork stuck on the wall above the bathtub really got trashed with moisture.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> That&#8217;s because they didn&#8217;t care whether it got trashed or not. Thinking back on it now, that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/279\">Mr. Ishiguro<\/a> was a real nice guy. Even though he must have been busy, he always took some time out to deal with us.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> He must&#8217;ve liked young folks.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> I wish I could have thanked him. He really went through a lot of trouble for us.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> So that&#8217;s how you got your material for the fanzines.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb10\/26406.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<em>A selection of fanzines published by Yamato Lab, April 1975 through January 1976<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> So <em>Astronaut<\/em> came out in May [1975]?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> Astronaut focused on the members&#8217; views, as well as the parodies. The fanzine and club reports were separated. In the fanzine, the focus was the content and original artwork.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Ito:<\/em><\/span> But the club report was sold at Comiket&#8230;with different colored covers.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> Around that time was when the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/276\">doujinshi<\/a> started becoming popular. It was considered interesting just for a little production art to appear in those &#8216;zines.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> That was unusual at that time.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> Can you tell us about when the &#8220;Lab&#8221; was closed and YA was created?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> There were just too many members. Whether it was about money, or about shipping and handling, I was handling it all&#8230;and it was just hellish. And if it continued, I was going to quit!<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Ito:<\/em><\/span> That&#8217;s when the Lab closed and was reborn as YA, with 200 members. We even created our own photo ID! (laughs)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> Mr. W selected the girls for membership, and I selected the guys. I felt sorry for the girls, because Mr. W selected them based on their looks (laughs).<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> Yeah, we also tried dropping that obnoxious Kemarin fella, from Hokkaido. He kept sending us letters, so Mr. W wanted to axe his membership.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> But he got in because he was going to attend Japan Arts, or Tokyo Designer School, so we wanted to have him do illustrations. He just never knew how lucky he was! (laughs)<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb10\/26407.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<em>Fanzines published by Yamato Association starting February 1976<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> YA was focused on <em>Yamato Land<\/em> for a time.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> We ended up with a respectable 64-page fanzine that we typed out at 1000 yen a copy.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> Yeah. Mr. W gave us those impressive type fonts (laughs).<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> We spent quite some time looking for the best copy places.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Ito:<\/em><\/span> Kushino&#8217;s group worked hard to limit the number of copies we needed to make. Who arranged that?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> Probably Mr. W. He went out of his way to get us six months&#8217; worth of label sheets.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> Nowadays, everybody&#8217;s spoiled because they can sell things at the Comiket, but in the past it was hard because we had to write everything down by hand.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> Comiket wasn&#8217;t very large then, and the anime fans weren&#8217;t storming in to get their copies at the time, either. It just wasn&#8217;t that popular then.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Ito:<\/em><\/span> Comiket is a marketing success now, with the second or third incarnation of Mr. W lurking out there! (laughs)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"image-right\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb10\/26408.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<em>YA members at the 1976 Christmas Manga Festival<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> YA&#8217;s 2nd and 3rd volumes were great. They contained the scripts for episode one and eighteen, as well as original artwork.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> Inserting the script made things easier, since there was nothing to type. We just had to reduce the original and slap it onto the available space.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Ito:<\/em><\/span> Can&#8217;t do that these days. With copyrights, it&#8217;s unlikely you&#8217;d get access to all the artwork and the originals.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> And on the other end of the spectrum, there&#8217;re already far too many anime magazines out there, flooding the scene with information. A good special-edition book would quickly make its way to the market.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> Anime fans nowadays are spoiled, taking only the best items and getting their fill so easily.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> Yeah, they&#8217;re all hot for the latest and greatest, then drop it when something new comes along. Spoiled is right! (laughs)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> So what&#8217;s in store for YA, aside from publishing fanzines?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> Movie showings. But instead of <em>Yamato<\/em>, we&#8217;ll be focused on Tatsunoko productions.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Ito:<\/em><\/span> With the cooperation of the other anime clubs.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> We&#8217;re not just <em>Yamato<\/em> fans, we also like other SF anime as well. <em>Tekkaman, Hurricane Polymer, Time Bokan, Gatchaman<\/em> and many others.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> So what became of the club?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"image-left\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault-images\/feb10\/26409.JPG\" border=\"0\" \/><br \/>\n<em>Yamato Association membership, 1977<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Ito:<\/em><\/span> While assisting with the editing of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/265\">June [1977] issue of OUT,<\/a> Mr. W became a semi-pro editor and began working on YA from the distance.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> When the <em>Yamato<\/em> movie was released, we assisted with Office Academy&#8217;s promotional strategy.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Kushino:<\/em><\/span> Mr. W and I were in our fourth year in college, and Nakatani was just entering as a freshman.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> But I was starting to tire of the constant chaos during the release. Making the poster books and all the copies of the fanzines&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Ito:<\/em><\/span> After the official <em>Yamato<\/em> Fan Club was established, people lost their motivation, eh?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Komaki:<\/em><\/span> <em>Yamato<\/em> No. 4 was far into its production at the time. It was going to be a Gamilas special.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Nakatani:<\/em><\/span> With the anime &#8216;zines coming out, and <em>Farewell to Yamato<\/em> being released so suddenly, there just was a lot of pressure at the time. But YA is now coming back with its second wind, and more research into other anime as well.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"textBlue\"><em>Interviewer:<\/em><\/span> Thank you all for your time.<\/p>\n<h3>The End<\/h3>\n<p>Read an overview of <em>Yamato<\/em> fan history <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ourstarblazers.com\/vault\/260\">here<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In 1983, a special book published by Animec gave a detailed overview of the first TV series, which included the only known published interview with those who ran the best-known private Yamato fan clubs of the 1970s. 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